Can’t We Just Improve the Welfare of Animals?

Can’t We Just Improve the Welfare of Animals?


“I do care about the well-being of animals. “that’s why I make sure to only buy animal products that come from “high welfare farms and humane slaughterhouses, “where the animals haven’t suffered or felt any pain.” Is the excuse “I only buy animal products from Red Tractor approved, RSPCA assured, or free range facilities” a morally justifiable reason to not go vegan? Jeffrey Dahmer was a serial killer who drugged his victims before he killed them. In essence, meaning they didn’t feel any pain and they didn’t suffer as they were killed. Did that make the action of killing those people morally justifiable? The thing is, when we take a hen out of a cage and put them into an overcrowded barn, it does very little for the welfare of the animals. Labels like free-range, or high welfare, or humanely slaughtered, don’t actually represent truly the treatment of the animals. They’re there for us, the consumer, to ease our conscience. They don’t do anything to actually provide real relief for the animals who are still being exploited, are still suffering, and are still ultimately killed. Phrases like “humane slaughter” are an oxymoron. The word “humane” means to have or show compassion or benevolence. So how can you compassionately, benevolently, or humanely take the life of an animal that does not want to die for an unnecessary reason? The only humane way to slaughter an animal is to not slaughter them. The only humane way to exploit an animal is to not exploit them. The only happy chickens are the chickens they get to live out their life truly in freedom, not free-range. Of course, there’s an argument that improving the treatment of these animals is better than doing nothing, in the same way that taking a Paracetamol for a broken arm is better than doing nothing. But the reality is, the impact it has is very small, and it doesn’t actually solve the problem. The arm is still broken, or the animal is still suffering. What we have to understand is that there is no right way to do the wrong thing. And exploiting animals in any sense is always the wrong thing, regardless of how we do it. Let’s look at free-range as an example. The free-range label is a marketing ploy, and it’s a deceitful cover-up for the fact that these hens are still suffering. I used to buy free-range eggs with the belief that the hens that produce these eggs lived a good, happy, and fulfilled life. But the reality is the complete opposite of that for free-range hens. These hens, like they’re caged counterparts, will also be de-beaked. The male chicks are still ground up alive at birth, and they’re ultimately still killed at around 72 weeks old. The barns are so overcrowded that most of the free-range hens will still not experience sunlight or breathe fresh air. In fact, 16,000 birds can be kept in a barn, which means that nine birds can be housed per square meter of space. That doesn’t sound like free-range to me. Now, let’s look at happy cows and happy milk. Is a cow happy when she is forcibly impregnated? Is that mother cow happy when her baby is taken away from her? Is she happy when she’s exploited for what is rightfully there for her child? Is she happy when she’s loaded in a truck and taken to a slaughterhouse? Is she happy when the bolt gun is against her head or the knife against her throat? Make no mistake, there is no happiness in milk, there is no happiness in eggs, and there is no happiness in animal exploitation. Now, the reality is, it doesn’t matter how nice a life an animal has lived; the moment we exploit them for what isn’t ours, the moment we take them to the slaughterhouse or to the yard to kill them, and make no mistake, all the animals that we exploit, we kill in the end. The moment we do that, that is abusive, there’s exploitation, and it cannot be morally justified. These animals don’t care if they’re grass-fed, organic, free-range, Red Tractor approved, or RSPCA assured, those labels aren’t there for them. All these animals want is to be free, truly free, not free-range, not free to pasture 4 to 6 months of the year, free to live out their lives without fear of human-inflicted pain, suffering, and terror. Now, it always strikes me strange that when we protest against something like the Yulin dog meat festival, we don’t protest for these dogs to be kept in better conditions. We don’t say it’s acceptable to kill a dog if they’re kept in a bigger cage, or if they’re killed in a more humane way. We say that the exploitation of dogs and cats in situations like Yulin is wrong full stop, and it should be abolished. There’s no “buts,” there’s no “ifs.” The exploitation and death of dogs for that reason is wrong and immoral and cannot be justified. So I ask you, if the Labrador steaks being consumed in Yulin were Red Tractor approved, would that make it moral? If the minced poodle was RSPCA assured, would that make it more moral? If these animals were taken to British slaughterhouses, and the dogs were killed in the same way that we kill cows and pigs in this country, would that make it acceptable in your eyes? But if you wouldn’t consider it acceptable to gas dogs alive, why would it be acceptable to gas pigs alive? And by the way, gas chambers are considered the most humane way of killing pigs in this country. We can’t have different standards for different animals. All animals are warranted the same moral value and the same moral consideration. Which means that if it’s not acceptable to kill dogs in Yulin, it’s not acceptable to kill pigs, chickens, cows, or sheep in this country, regardless of the label, regardless of the marketing ploy, or regardless of the way that it is done. Now, the reason these companies use these marketing ploys, these labels, is to make us complicit in systems and industries that we’d normally be disgusted by. Most of us hate the things that we do to animals. We view them as disgusting, which is why you buy products that are labeled free-range or Red Tractor approved. But we’ve been tricked into thinking that some animals are deserving of life and some animals aren’t. All we have to understand is, these labels don’t mean anything for the animals. They all feel pain and they all suffer regardless of the systems that are exploiting them within. If you want to learn more about this, then I urge you to watch the documentary Land of Hope and Glory, which goes into detail, and explores and unearths the hidden myths behind animal exploitation, and shows just once and for all that these labels mean nothing. They all want to live. They should all be granted that basic right to live, and we have no moral justification to take their life from them regardless of what label or marketing ploy is on their flesh or on their secretions.

Daniel Yohans

79 thoughts on “Can’t We Just Improve the Welfare of Animals?

  1. joseph bayliss says:

    This excuse is silly

  2. Louis Gedo says:

    Facts and logic destroys carnist nonsense every time

  3. purpleturtles#9 says:

    Seeing vegan ads on YouTube is amazing. What you're doing for the movement is incredibly commendable and inspirational.

  4. Louis Gedo says:

    Www.HumaneMyth.com

  5. Hally Malcolm says:

    I want to get educated on Veganism but where do I start? I have some knowledge, and I am currently vegan. I just need to get smarter.

  6. Party over Work says:

    You should ve edited more pictures and short video's man, but keep it up

  7. Vegan Gargoyle says:

    Good job on the videos and book it’s truly good

  8. Metropolitan PEACE says:

    A dog is a pig, is a bear, is a boy.
    And we all suffer equally and we all feel joy. We all have the right to live life without pain. We all have the right to never be slain. The final solution won't come from a knife, the final solution will be love for all life. So NOW we SHOUT for forks over knives. NOW we SHOUT for all animals lives.

    Thank you Ed. Such a great series of facts 👏💚🌱

  9. Andrea Colletti says:

    Your videos have helped me to finally get my sister to try veganism! Thank you!!!

  10. Fernando Torres says:

    Can I add subtitles to your videos? 🙂

  11. Poffo Ortiz says:

    was waiting for this.. thanks so much Ed!

  12. Vegan For The Animals Ⓥ says:

    No excuse for animal USE !

  13. Robert Bruce says:

    There are no arguments against veganism, only excuses.

  14. Atash Maz says:

    Hi Earthling Ed, thank you so much for all of your efforts and awesome content and videos. Can you please do a video on the folly of Allan Savory and his theories people follow on desertification and “land management” for using animals please? It would be great to hear your analysis and viewpoint. Cheers!

  15. Andi Anderson says:

    I love these videos so much!

  16. Tamim Al-Shallah says:

    Almost all the people I talk to disagree with current farming practices but their minds directly goes to needing to have more "free-range, grass-fed, humanely slaughtered, etc …" as if this helps fixing the root cause.

  17. Simon says:

    why did GOD allow something
    immoral
    but says FEAR GOD

  18. Angel Tirado says:

    Name the Trait is not hard at all to debunk. Let me preface this by saying whether you’re a carnist or vegan that there is some hypothetical you must accept to justify your diet/lifestyle, for carnist it’s whatever trait they named and for vegans it’s accepting a hypothetical where they are reduced to the level of that of bugs and small animals since combines kill both of those in plant production. Ok so the trait is higher sentience and yes I would be willing to be killed if you lowered my sentience and it’s a yes to any question down the line. If you’re vegan and think I’m a psycho you’re a hypocrite because you are accepting a hypothetical where humans are gettting killed regardless. I would love to hear all possible rebuttals but I know there aren’t any. Good Luck!

  19. Angel Tirado says:

    Facts and Logic destroy vegan nonsense every time.

  20. Poffo Ortiz says:

    I just shared my own personal copy of Land of Hope & Glory on my Facebook page, i think EVERYONE needs to watch it at least once, as there is no greater motivation to go vegan and stay vegan than to actually "see" what these animals are forced to endure.

  21. Brandi Barnes says:

    Veganism=life of compassion, is the only answer

  22. Educate Society says:

    Unecessary murder is never ethical

  23. Tristan Devereaux says:

    This "free range"/"grass fed"/etc excuse is such nonsense when you break it down logically.

  24. Martin Delgado says:

    https://youtu.be/RyNmgSefNA4 have you seen this video ? Would love to watch a response/rebuttal.

  25. MrAlex says:

    I'm thinking about creating a facebook page where I share videos like Eds, plant based news etc and post some what graphic footage from youtube. You can also pay to boost your page so it reaches more people. This way if I was at a vigil for example I could stream/ post it on there, as I'd be worried about what my family would think if I posted on my own Facebook ( it's stupid I know). What do you lovely people think?

  26. Lori N says:

    This might be my favourite video in this series so far, but they are all excellent rebuttals.

  27. Suzana Josic says:

    Humane/cage free/free range/organic/natural/hormone free/grass fed/etc don't mean jack diddly shit to the animals whose lives are taken no matter what label your packaging has.

  28. Enegetics : says:

    Love your channel but you're just wrong on this point. Killing any organism without causing it any pain means they don't feel anything and there is no more damage done. The original damage was the breeding of said animals, it's the LIFE not the death of these animals that is so tragic. Life is the painful reality, not some right they should be 'granted'. All animals should be painlessly euthanised, ideally. Stop believing in the magic of "life" and get in touch with reality.

  29. Mako Yuhara says:

    Fellow vegan here. I just want to see if there's any non vegans watching?

  30. Fiona Browne says:

    Wow! When you thought the content of these videos couldn't get any better, you hit the nail on the head with this one.. Powerful x

  31. Roxie Whitmire says:

    The problem seems more to be the fact the animals are being bred to be born into this world on a human's behalf. To be bred just to be killed and considered nothing but a product is a horrible thing.

  32. Amabel Vitai says:

    Great video, looking forward to the rest of them

  33. Josi Grothoff says:

    ON POINT

  34. Ben Ward says:

    Yes we can. Thats the answer.

  35. Paul Ⓥ Gregory says:

    Nothing moral about eating animals when we have alternative cruelty free healthy food …

  36. Toms Elksnitis says:

    Love u, man!

  37. TheMuppetFarmer says:

    Go fuck your self you earthworm

  38. Karla Dawn Jones says:

    This one made me cry

  39. rugpogjrn aug says:

    Very important that people know the truth about "free range". Great video.

  40. tom maginnis says:

    is a cold life as a veg/vegan trust me i know i was for 3 years, being vegan or veg is the cheapest least nutritious least healthy unnatural DIEt to be on ever, b12 vit a vit k and so many more plus we are made from collagen so we need to eat it, factory farming is wrong but eating natural animals is what we need!, we need meat and hi fat diet to be a human anything else is anti human such as veg/vegan, you will become soo ill on this DIEt you will need injections….. intravenous drug addicts, as well as big pharma supplements so you will be a sick synthetic slave! its unnatural and impossible to live on this DIEt you will get so sick you will need to revert which will be hard as you have over alclaized your system for so long its hard to eat meat btw we have hydrochloric acid in our systems for a reason that reason is we are carnivores, anyone who falls for the veg/vegan deception is a brainwashed slave and the sooner you realize this the better for your health and the planet as the vegan deception is destroying the planet due to pesticides and on and on they are also grown by migrants mostly and also kill millions of rodents every year the deception is huge and all veg/vegans are mentally ill slaves who deserve to be in a zombie state.

  41. tom maginnis says:

    is a cold life as a veg/vegan trust me i know i was for 3 years, being vegan or veg is the cheapest least nutritious least healthy unnatural DIEt to be on ever, b12 vit a vit k and so many more plus we are made from collagen so we need to eat it, factory farming is wrong but eating natural animals is what we need!, we need meat and hi fat diet to be a human anything else is anti human such as veg/vegan, you will become soo ill on this DIEt you will need injections….. intravenous drug addicts, as well as big pharma supplements so you will be a sick synthetic slave! its unnatural and impossible to live on this DIEt you will get so sick you will need to revert which will be hard as you have over alclaized your system for so long its hard to eat meat btw we have hydrochloric acid in our systems for a reason that reason is we are carnivores, anyone who falls for the veg/vegan deception is a brainwashed slave and the sooner you realize this the better for your health and the planet as the vegan deception is destroying the planet due to pesticides and on and on they are also grown by migrants mostly and also kill millions of rodents every year the deception is huge and all veg/vegans are mentally ill slaves who deserve to be in a zombie state.
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  42. Oxxxshy says:

    AMAZING! THANK YOU!

  43. Ro Ku says:

    Thanks for mentioning how you too used to be taken in by "humane" labels.  I was too, in the past.  I had this notion that hens were allowed to wander uncrowded over acres of grass like the pet hens I grew up with (who incidentally all were allowed to die of old age).  The thing is, even those hens hated it and would bite when they were trying to sit on their precious egg and the person they trusted to feed and pet them (me) came with the basket and stole their unborn child.  Even the kindest exploitation is still exploitation!

  44. CynicalIdealist says:

    On the internet – Yay! Vegans everywhere!
    In real life – … I'm the only vegan on the planet.

  45. Erizon Macani says:

    You simply cannot argue against this. If you try you become ethically inconsistent and hypocritical.

  46. Afflicted Sim says:

    HELP!! I eat meat, have milk with cereal for breakfast and watched the "vegan visits dairy farm" and the mother going after the baby made me cry and actually thinking that I drink another others milk is so weird to me. The reason I have screamed for help is because I cannot stop or find alternatives for all of my favourite meals. ;( I eat fast food and I know that they're treated in horrible conditions wit injections to grow faster.

  47. Malik Rahman says:

    Strange thing is people are happy to eat medical drugs everyday but hate the thought of eating plants based. Sad but funny truth.

  48. Ganpignanus .Gianni says:

    yes you can improve animal welfare by becoming vegan. no more torture or killing or eating flesh.

  49. Gorilla Glue says:

    Seeing that wee dog shivering and shaking in the cage made me stop watching. Dirty useless human bastards!

  50. Buk Wildman says:

    What do you think about animals killed through pesticides? Is there anyway to reduce their death?

  51. Monica Martella says:

    Always love your work Ed! Thank you.

  52. richard wiediger says:

    Ed, you are an angel, sent to help these helpless beings, but there needs to be a better more effective way of getting this message out. Right now it seems more like, you're preaching to the choir!

  53. Elsa Carmona says:

    thank u for inspiring me ! i decided to go 100 % vegan now. Been a vegetarian for 6 years

  54. Betty Jillian says:

    You know the saying, “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it…”? I suggest you look the other way and technically nothing has suffered.

  55. Acyuta Atipriya Jambavatidasi says:

    Hopefully, the people who claim that will soon realise their own stupidity.

  56. thot chocolate says:

    Isn’t it better to support more welfare-driven places when getting meat for an animal that needs to eat it, such as cats and dogs?

    I am vegan, my pets are not. My dogs get meat from places that raise their animals as best as possible up until their death. I wish there was a better way, but I don’t want my dogs to suffer the health issues and have the nutritional imbalances that come with being on a Plant-Based diet.

  57. Kajsa says:

    They should show all of your videos in school!!

  58. Something Sea1 says:

    Amazon Alexa lost her voice 1 minute 30 seconds ad

  59. tom maginnis says:

    is a cold life as a veg/vegan trust me i know i was for 3 years, being vegan or veg is the cheapest least nutritious least healthy unnatural DIEt to be on ever, b12 vit a vit k and so many more plus we are made from collagen so we need to eat it, factory farming is wrong but eating natural animals is what we need!, we need meat and hi fat diet to be a human anything else is anti human such as veg/vegan, you will become soo ill on this DIEt you will need injections….. intravenous drug addicts, as well as big pharma supplements so you will be a sick synthetic slave! its unnatural and impossible to live on this DIEt you will get so sick you will need to revert which will be hard as you have over alclaized your system for so long its hard to eat meat btw we have hydrochloric acid in our systems for a reason that reason is we are carnivores, anyone who falls for the veg/vegan deception is a brainwashed slave and the sooner you realize this the better for your health and the planet as the vegan deception is destroying the planet due to pesticides and on and on they are also grown by migrants mostly and also kill millions of rodents every year the deception is huge and all veg/vegans are mentally ill slaves who deserve to be in a zombie state.

  60. redlox2 says:

    technically the best we can do for these human modified version of animals is send them to sanctuaries (as their current versions cannot hope to thrive in the wild).

  61. Alison Harris says:

    Bloody brilliant! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  62. Lyla Maurel says:

    What do you think about hunting ? (I'm vegan, that's not an attack, but some of my family members use this argument)

  63. Crocoshark says:

    "Humane slaughter" is not an oxy moron.

    Oxen are herbivores. It's a lionymoron.

    . . . I'll see myself out . . .

  64. Abednego S says:

    Just because the meat processing industry is Doing It Wrong doesn't mean its wrong to eat meat.

  65. Kellan - Real Estate / Financial Independence says:

    Minced poodle, oh god…

  66. Lord Commander says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOqbBDpFcgU

  67. Kasra jahany says:

    I think the argument that he uses is really flawed! If you claim that the humane ways of farming animals when they have enough and comfortable space to live and killing animals when they don't suffer any pain is still wrong then what you value is just 'life'! In this case it can be argued that plants are living species and they have the right to live! Besides while farming plants you need to use pesticides which results in killing of lots of other animals which have the right to live as well and you can go on using this argument in any case like cutting forest to have farm lands or constructing roads, factories or cities which all cause lots of disruption in other animals' lives.
    What I believe is that for him not that much veganism is important (despite what he might think of himself) as it is to have a cause, this activism gives him goal in life and makes his life meaningful, to me he got all the criteria of a very religious person just his religion is veganism which perhaps is even a less developed religion/philosophy than the existing ones.

  68. Paget Vido says:

    Whether an animal lives in nature, or a very good farm (which are rare), there are pro's and con's. The animal isn't happy when its sick with no veterinary care, not getting enough food thanks to overpopulation or drought, or being eaten alive by predators. Saying life isn't worth some pain leads to the conclusion that the universe would be a better place if no life existed. Humans aren't gods, life will continue to evolve regardless of how little we like it. We can help by keeping populations and the ecosystem in balance, something we're currently shit at doing.

  69. Karoo says:

    In Japan, there's no street dogs because they all go to gas chamber to end lives. That's saaaaaaaaaad.

  70. BrotherDarnitAll says:

    Kill animals. Drink their blood eat raw meat

  71. BrotherDarnitAll says:

    Your head is to heavy for your neck. Lolz

  72. Lua Woonlouh says:

    i decided to go vegan last month but i having trouble sticking to it because i wasn't really feeling like i was doing the right thing. however, your videos were the boost that i needed, i cried watching this and i'm feeling so bad and so sick thinking about how much suffering is involved in the meat, dairy and eggs industry. i'll never consume animal products ever again.

  73. Kate Watson says:

    I used to be that person that never really thought about where my milk, cheese, eggs, etc came from. I was the biggest cheese and egg lover of all time. I was raised vegetarian and I thought that was wonderful. I wasn't killing animals. But after videos like yours I slowly changed. I never thought I could be vegan. But then I realized even though I was vegetarian, I was still killing animals. I was inflicting unnecessary pain, fear, suffering, and so much more on these animals. Thanks to videos like yours, now I am a proud vegan. I am rescuing neglected chickens and fighting for their welfare. After I went vegan, that convinced 3 of my best friends to go vegan. Now because I am vegan, my family eats way less animal products and continues to make more and more vegan foods. Now my friends are changing their families as well. One person doing a simple thing can cause a chain reaction. I am glad to say that happened with me. Thank you for spreading this message.

  74. Stephen Armour says:

    Morrally justifiable ed were is morals on vegan baby deaths. You accept and promote and support child abuse and murder and accept and promote and support animal abuse and murder. You can't have a all vegan world. As after your animal fat stores run out good bye human race. As no meat no animal fat stores no sex hormones no baby's. But baby's don't mean anything to any vegan as veganism is a sick twisted evil way of life. Go vegan and die.

  75. Nichloas Przano says:

    There is never a right way, to do the wrong thing.

  76. mill says:

    when i was 8, there was a girl in my class who found out that the beef we ate at school was the cows that lived down the road from her that she had meat and had an attachment to. people in our class teased her, including me, about it and she got angry and slapped me. she wasnt vegetarian. however i regretted it so much and apologised to her, and 4 months later i was vegetarian (i am now vegan) and she teased me by eating meat and rubbing it in my face at lunch. idk just thought that was an interesting story as it made a big difference to her perspective on animal welfare when she found out. she still eats meat and is horrible about veganism.

  77. L L says:

    Thank you that’s great!!

  78. GodTheDess says:

    "There is no right way to do the wrong thing"
    love that quote

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